For me, I have neither a trailer nor a vehicle capable of pulling one, so if such a rule came into place it would become too costly for me to compete in a non-trailered OD class that now would allow others in the class to trailer their cars. So I might as well quite now. Since there is a trailered class, then trailer and be judged that way. If there are ‘cheaters’ then fix the rules to validate cars in a non-trailered class that they in fact drove it to the show.
A trailering rule ‘exception’ would mean that members/owners like me who don’t already have trailers or appropriate tow vehicles and can’t afford them, now have to complete against not only the cheaters but this new group that is in the exception class and can trailer but register in a non-trailered class.
You either compete in a trailered class or non-trailered class, adding a hybrid class (some trailer some don’t) that has to compete with each other only adds more confusion and division in the Class.
If one only goes to a National once every few years and isn't interested in a medallion and goes primarily to socialize with friends and owns a trailer and tow vehicle, then trailer it and register as display only and have fun.
57183- Richard, You are absolute,y correct. I have spent enough now to have bought a trailer and then could sell and recoup some of that money. However, my problem is I have absolutely nowhere to keep a trailer. They are not allowed in my subdivision, and storage becomes expensive, as someone else noted. As another member noted, creating anexception may result in an inequity for those driven cars. I had good weather going to Disney, so when I got there I checked and had very little to clean on the undercarraige. That puts me closer to the enclosed trailered cars. However, in foul weather I might as well have driven it. It's not an easy solution to the problem. I learned to just deal with it. Hopefully the MCA board can figure something out. In the meantime, we need to police ourselves.
Thanks to all of you for your imput, even if we don't agree, we still see other's points of view. As one of you stated, your insurance company doesn't allow your classic to be driven more then 3,000 miles a year, which applies to me. Some of you have almost new cars that this doesn't apply to. To the members that are new to the hobby, go look inside the trunk of a 65 to 70 fastback.
I have 2 folding chairs, a small cooler for 6 waters, a small tray for cleaning products, and some towels. I don't even have room for a spare tire. I carry 2 cans of fix a flat and hoping that I never have to use these either. I'm not going to travel with a pair of socks and a change of unders and be gone a week. UGH. I don't mean to be insulting about this next item and I'm sorry if I do, but if you're newer car gets stolen or demolished in a wreck, and things do happen. You can buy a used stock newer Mustang at any Ford dealer. Try to find a car like mine, hardly, go on ebay and try, I've spent 4 years and thousands of hours to build mine, go on my profile and see a partial list of my mods. My gripe isn't so much the cleaning when you get to a car show, it's all of the above and then some. McMach said it best that there is no easy solution and maybe I'll take rgrimm's advice and just put it in display. But being a racer all my life and competing, I just don't know. Anyway, thanks to all for your imput
Here's a thought:
ALL classes simply have 2 categories - concours or driven (yes, I understand that you'll still need unrestored, thoroughbred, etc, but those classes allow trailered).
If you choose "driven" then the undercarriage is NOT judged.
You don't need the 3 choices that they currently have: driven, occasional driven, daily driven!
Doesn't matter how you get to the show - trailered, driven or carried in your back pocket.
It shouldn't matter if you drive or trailer if you enter the driven category and the undercarriage is not judged. You should be able to clean your vehicle properly from the rockers up even if driven to the show and compete fairly with a trailered car if the undercarriage is not judged.
Have everyone compete against the scoresheet/perfection and not other cars.
Just my 2 cents on the trailered/driven issue.
It would also eliminate cheaters and greatly reduce the demands on the judging staff.
so if you have an enclosed trailer and you don't get a spec of dirt on your stang while your travel - how does that compare to the open trailer that gets all the dirt, rain, dust etc and the only it isn't getting from the drive is the mileage
how does that stack up to this trailer vs. non-trailer discussion?
That's why I suggested to allow open trailering if you live "x" miles from the show. Open trailered cars get just as dirty as driven cars. Also, those of us with Heacock Insurance have annual mileage limits. An individual from the east coast who drove to the Reno show used over 2/3 of the maximum mileage allotment on that one show. If we're going to have events all across the USA, then perhaps we need to adjust our rules to fit that new reality.
"Open trailered cars get just as dirty as driven cars." I'll respectfully disagree. People are not getting in and out at every gas stop. The interior looks the same as when it left. Driven cars don't. The engine is not running. Most open trailer do have a solid floor which is protecting the undercarriage to some degree. The tow vehicle is blocking a lot of the bugs/etc. No, it's not the same protection as an enclosed trailer, but it's certainly not the same as a driven car.
I just can't see trying to break it down by what type of trailer? What about with and without a wind-deflector/stone guard on the front. If I leave a window open in my enclosed trailer is that now an "open" trailer? What if it has sides, a roof but no rear door? The "problem" is trying to enforce the current trailer rules. I don't see where adding more guidelines solves that issue. Just let the entrant pick whether he wants his undercarriage judged or not.
In my example "driven" just means that the undercarriage will not be judged. You can drive or trailer (any type of trailer) to the event. Just pick "concours" or "driven" as your category. If you pick concours then the undercarriage will be judged. If you pick driven then the undercarriage will not be judged. I'll stand by my statement that if you can't clean your ride from the rockers up, no matter how the vehicle arrived, then you need to just take your lumps.