Judging sheet

[1sgt]

OK I'm lost how can a GT SHELBY COUPLE be judged ???? I was told a car had to be two years old and the best you could do was the POPULAR VOTE ???? So my car can't be judged untell 2013 because I have a SHELBY 2011 ???

[lastyear50]

I thought I would provide a quick update. I talked to Steve Prewitt about this and he has added it to the agenda for the meeting tomorrow. Will post up more info after the meeting

Hello any new update regarding my request? Thanks

[mustangted1963]

OK I'm lost how can a GT SHELBY COUPLE be judged ???? I was told a car had to be two years old and the best you could do was the POPULAR VOTE ???? So my car can't be judged untell 2013 because I have a SHELBY 2011 ???

i believe thats true, unless its modified

[03Mach1_12MCA]

OK I'm lost how can a GT SHELBY COUPLE be judged ???? I was told a car had to be two years old and the best you could do was the POPULAR VOTE ???? So my car can't be judged untell 2013 because I have a SHELBY 2011 ???

If you look at the OP's "Mustang Garage" his Shelby is an '09. Which should qualify it under that logic as it is 2011.

[MrFarmdog]

Hello any new update regarding my request? Thanks

I should have a formal response by EOD today. I received one and had some questions before I post. Just waiting on a response.

Thanks

[MrFarmdog]

Hello i found this thread while looking for an answer to a question i posted in Ask MCA. I'm trying to find out if there has ever been a independent financial audit of the MCA. if so can members get a copy? I have been waitin for copies of judging sheets since Sept 8th. I've learned that our club with over 11,000 members and annual dues collected of more then 600,000.00 (11,000X50.00 ) only has a staff of 1 person in it's National Headquarters, and that person seems to be extremely busy,and not able to do things like make copies of requested judging sheets in the event the post offices loses them. (which from reading these posts happens a lot). I'm curious as to where all the money goes? Hope you can help. Thanks

From the MCA Executive Committee

There has been a question raised about whether the MCA Financial Books and Records are being kept, protected and shared with MCA members in the proper manner prescribed by the MCA By-Laws. It is a valid question and one I'm glad to discuss and make sure all MCA members understand how this process is done.

First of all, the accounting firm of Hargrave, Freeman and Leto, P.C. in McDonough, Georgia, actually keeps the books for the MCA as a dis-interested third party. This was approved by the MCA in 2008 for several reasons. One of these reasons the MCA approved this was as a save guard to the MCA. Using the current system, the MCA Treasurer does not keep checks at their disposal and does not write the checks. Therefore, the MCA National Treasurer is not responsible for keeping the books, only for approving the checks to be written by the accounting firm and then to sign and mail the checks out and file and maintain the expense records to complete the payment process. Income comes from a variety of places including membership fees, advertising sales, merchandise sales, and more. The accounting firm and the National Treasurer keeps track of all these transactions. At the request of the MCA National Treasurer, or the MCA President or the Executive Committee as a whole, the accounting firm will prepare and release a complete general ledger showing all the expenses and receipts that the MCA has accounted for up to any point during the year.

At the end of the year, the accounting firm prepares a complete accounting of the MCA's books which is then presented to the National Board of Directors at a National Board Meeting. If there is anything that needs clarification or correction, then it is taken care of at that time. With this process in place, the process that the MCA goes through each time a check is written or a bill paid with the final accounting each year meets the guidelines and rules that are in the MCA By-Laws.

[lastyear50]

From the MCA Executive Committee

There has been a question raised about whether the MCA Financial Books and Records are being kept, protected and shared with MCA members in the proper manner prescribed by the MCA By-Laws. It is a valid question and one I'm glad to discuss and make sure all MCA members understand how this process is done.

First of all, the accounting firm of Hargrave, Freeman and Leto, P.C. in McDonough, Georgia, actually keeps the books for the MCA as a dis-interested third party. This was approved by the MCA in 2008 for several reasons. One of these reasons the MCA approved this was as a save guard to the MCA. Using the current system, the MCA Treasurer does not keep checks at their disposal and does not write the checks. Therefore, the MCA National Treasurer is not responsible for keeping the books, only for approving the checks to be written by the accounting firm and then to sign and mail the checks out and file and maintain the expense records to complete the payment process. Income comes from a variety of places including membership fees, advertising sales, merchandise sales, and more. The accounting firm and the National Treasurer keeps track of all these transactions. At the request of the MCA National Treasurer, or the MCA President or the Executive Committee as a whole, the accounting firm will prepare and release a complete general ledger showing all the expenses and receipts that the MCA has accounted for up to any point during the year.

At the end of the year, the accounting firm prepares a complete accounting of the MCA's books which is then presented to the National Board of Directors at a National Board Meeting. If there is anything that needs clarification or correction, then it is taken care of at that time. With this process in place, the process that the MCA goes through each time a check is written or a bill paid with the final accounting each year meets the guidelines and rules that are in the MCA By-Laws.

Thank you very much for looking into this. Do you know if the results of the audit are published in a way that would make them accessible to a member? Thanks again

[mustangted1963]

Thank you very much for looking into this. Do you know if the results of the audit are published in a way that would make them accessible to a member? Thanks again

what is being done is not an audit.

[MrFarmdog]

what is being done is not an audit.

Just posting my opinion here but I believe the intent of the audit statement was to provide a third party review of the accounting practices at a time when MCA board members were actually keeping the books. Since we have an out side accounting firm manage the books for us then I believe the exec com feels that meets the intent of the bylaws.

Also, the full finances of the MCA are reviewed at our MCA board meetings that are open for any MCA member to attend and every MCA club has voting power to influence financial decisions through your regional director. If anyone on this thread really wants to dig deeply into MCA matters then I suggest you be the regional director for your club or just attend the meetings to get all the details. We have several regular MCA members that attend our quarterly meetings and they usually stay the entire weekend, have dinner with the board members and have plenty of time to discuss all aspects of MCA operations. If you are truly interested in helping make decisions on how the MCA is run then please run for the national board of directors. We need people that have the business savvy and true commitment to be an active participant for two years or longer.