50th Anniversary Celebration

[06474]

That is not true Bob. You used those terms in your first post on this forum- and you directed them to me and NOT FastDad.

Can you please explain your change of "story" and what FastDads agenda is?

Mustang 3 don't feel ignored, your included as a newbie crybaby in "My book." The agenda is objection to dual 50th locations. Maybe you should read the post before you run the mouth?

I've been heavily involved with Mustangs since 1966..not a member of MCA until 99 as it was always seen as an eastern club until recent times. But I'm far from a newbee in terms of Mustangs.

Like I said previously a 99 Membership is a newbie and a 99 Mustang will always be a late model in "my book."

Understand I own more books on the history of the Mustang then you do; I've owned more Mustangs then you have; I know more about the history and development of the Mustang then you do.

You have no idea what I own or have in my possesion in regards to Mustang literature, memorabilia and Original Ford documentation. I have no idea who you are, nor do I care how many copies of "Mustang Does it" you own. I too have owned more Mustangs than are currently in the garage. Too bad it don't count if you no longer own it. I'm sure you have restored more MCA Thoroughbred's than me also. Maybe you should load all your books etc in a 53 footer and bring to the 50th venue of your choice? If you have what you claim, I'm sure MCA would provide the tent for your display of rare Mustang history.

I will post MCA's declared purpose below--Is it true Bob or is it just a 1st gen owner front to hide behind but pay no real attention to?

MCA's declared Statement of Purpose:

MCA is a non-profit organization dedicated to the preservation, care, history and enjoyment of all model years of Mustang, Shelby, Boss, Saleen, Roush, SVT Cobra, Steeda and McLaren.

Mach on-

When I joined MCA there were no Saleens, Steeda or other copy cat late models to include in the Statement of Purpose. I have no interest in Showing or Judging cars still under warranty. Fortunately MCA understands the need to be inclusive of all Mustangs. I have no interest in the new Mustang other than fun transportation. That's why I have always supported MCA as there is a home or class for all Mustangs new or old. I just prefer 1st generation Cars , Memorabilia and literature. I have a couple late models, the real 94 pace car Parnelli paced the Indy 500 and the only 2008 Bullitt with factory Roush P51 motor. I like both cars, but I doubt you will ever see them at an MCA judged event as long as I own them. Ford has requested to use the 94 for their 50th event display.Sorry no info on what venue yet?

Mustang 3, You complain about lack of west coast events and MCA has delivered big time with Vegas 50th and you still cry like a spoiled brat. Post us a few pictures of your Mustang collection.

[Mustang 3]

Interesting collection Bob--but you need to learn a little about MCA. It was started in 1976. The last of the 1st generation Mustangs was but 4 model years out of production and a mere 12 years since the very first rolled off the liine. About the same as your Bullitt but you consider that car not to be worthy of MCA Show invovlement. Interesting. And your 94 Pace is even older and shows a greater spread of time from the very first Pace Mustang to the birth of MCA. Ya got a little bit of a double standard going on their Bob.

To borrow a line and amended it a wee bit from American Grafitti: It can't stay 1973 forever Bob. You have to grow up at some point.

[06474]

Interesting collection Bob--but you need to learn a little about MCA. It was started in 1976. The last of the 1st generation Mustangs was but 4 model years out of production and a mere 12 years since the very first rolled off the liine. About the same as your Bullitt but you consider that car not to be worthy of MCA Show invovlement. Interesting. And your 94 Pace is even older and shows a greater spread of time from the very first Pace Mustang to the birth of MCA. Ya got a little bit of a double standard going on their Bob.

To borrow a line and amended it a wee bit from American Grafitti: It can't stay 1973 forever Bob. You have to grow up at some point.

There is a major flaw in your age theory. Age is irrelevant if item is not collectible or worth the cost of restoration. I think you need to wake up rather than I grow up! Back up your mouth with some pics of your historical Mustang collection. Or is that irrelevant BS too?

[mustangted1963]

appears most of the membership doesnt read this forum


As far as submitting a letter to the Mustang Times, print media is old school and dying. If one choses to use that method, their response will not be heard until months later. MCA created this website and forum out of a realization that members wanted a more immediate and timely method to submit their questions and opinions to the leadership and the rest of the membership. In that light, it is entirely appropriate to use this forum to express those opinions and an enlightened leadership should use this forum to respond to those questions and opinions.[/QUOTE]

[FastDad]

appears most of the membership doesnt read this forum

That may be true. However Board members should be looking at the website on a regular basis (note I said "should" ).

[Mustang 3]

There is a major flaw in your age theory. Age is irrelevant if item is not collectible or worth the cost of restoration. I think you need to wake up rather than I grow up! Back up your mouth with some pics of your historical Mustang collection. Or is that irrelevant BS too?

Bob-- it is NOT about you growing it--it is about the MUSTANGS growing up. Your 94 Indy Pace is quickly approaching 20 yrs of age--let it grow up and make the show/judging circuit. In terms of historical age it is no different then showing a 1965 in 1985.

[fastlane65]

I posted a YES/NO poll in this forum. Please vote. This will give a fairly accurate count of the overall opinion of MCA members (that actually visit the forums.)

Also, saying that MCA should only cater to first gen cars is like saying Playboy should only have blondes. You might like them better, but someone in the "paying" audience likes red heads. To each his/her own. Variety is the spice of life. I say potato, you say potato (OK - doesn't translate to written word.)

[88pony]

I don’t like to post on these things because I feel that it has become a gripe session and not a learning and encouraging tool like it was meant to be. But, I am tired of the mudslinging, name calling, and character assassinations. This is just plain wrong! I have not read all of these posting on the 50 because what I have read has made me ill and kept me awake at night wondering how grown adults can act like this. I cannot believe all the drama that this 50th Anniversary Celebration has caused. If it had been only one location then you would have opened another can of worms about where it would be held and when and don’t deny this because you know that it is true. You are never going to make everyone happy. As anyone in leadership will tell you. Now we have placed it so that both East and West can enjoy the event and that makes you mad? We would still be reading the mudslinging, name calling, and character assassinations on the forum, but they would have been for the double Celebration, only the names would be different.
In the bigger scope of things, (sorry) they are just cars, a hobby that a lot of us enjoy. But, I have learned that really there is only a very few things to fight for. My faith, my family, and my friends these are the most important things in life. I have four wonderful kids and a God given spouse. Out of my 30+ years of marriage I have learn to be happy and satisfied with what I have been given. I have had one daughter fight a battle with Cancer, another with a blood disorder, and around 20 years ago I almost lost my husband to a propane explosion. I enjoy watching him with our kids, Grand kids, and his hobby. I was given a blessing of having all of this. Where the 50th is held or not held is not that big of a thing for me. I have other GREATER things to make me truly happy and I am sure all of you do also. Think on those things and work together to make this a GREAT hobby. You don’t know what you have until you have almost lost it or when it is too late and it’s gone.
Respectfully
Tari Rupp, A proud MCA Show Secretary

In following the discussions in the forum, I have noted that there are a number of people who have thoughfully expressed their opinion regarding their support of one or two shows for the anniversary. Unfortunately some, who are obviously very passionate, have provided comments that I am assuming they ordinarily would not use but in the heat of the moment said what they were thinking at that very moment. I believe that those with differing opinions should be afforded an opportunity to be heard and should not be described as disgruntled. However, those comments should not become personal attacks. Personally, I support the position of having one show.
Tari, regarding the comments in the second paragraph, I totally agree with everything you have said and I'm not sure I could have said it any better. As much as I would love to attend this show, I will instead remain at home with the family for Easter. If I reach the point where I place being out of town at a car show as a higher priority than being at home with family, I have surely lost my mind. Now I truely enjoy meeting the many wonderful people who attend the shows and have always had a blast but not at the expense of being with the one parent I have left, my sisters, nieces & nephews, my kids, and grandkids. An Easter egg hunt without pawpaw? It isn't gong to happen. Thanks for your time.

[Oldstyl]

appears most of the membership doesnt read this forum


As far as submitting a letter to the Mustang Times, print media is old school and dying. If one choses to use that method, their response will not be heard until months later. MCA created this website and forum out of a realization that members wanted a more immediate and timely method to submit their questions and opinions to the leadership and the rest of the membership. In that light, it is entirely appropriate to use this forum to express those opinions and an enlightened leadership should use this forum to respond to those questions and opinions.

[/QUOTE]

I cruise by the forum on a semi-regular basis to see whats going on, but I've all but stopped commenting on things because the threads are often hijacked with changes in subject and personal animus. The discussion above about old vs new is a perfect example of this. Perhaps print media is dead, and letters to the editor are passe, but let's be honest...they are way more civilized and impactful than the angry ranting in some post or blog.
Frankly people can say anything they want on these forums and hide in anonymity behind some screen name. Right or wrong, the MCA reps better have some thick skin, because internet age has ushered in the age of instant gratification and ad hominems.

[FastDad]

.....and ad hominems.

Oh now we're using Latin! You're gonna send the twelve of us who read this forum over to Wikipedia to figure out what you're talking about.